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		<title>By: Sun</title>
		<link>http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/02/does-ireland-really-need-two-airlines/#comment-8449</link>
		<dc:creator>Sun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foreseeing the future of airline business, the business models of the airlines are to be designed for the world and not for a country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foreseeing the future of airline business, the business models of the airlines are to be designed for the world and not for a country.</p>
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		<title>By: Manolo - Chile</title>
		<link>http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/02/does-ireland-really-need-two-airlines/#comment-8139</link>
		<dc:creator>Manolo - Chile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they are competitive, and financially viable, then why not ???</description>
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		<title>By: DENNIS</title>
		<link>http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/02/does-ireland-really-need-two-airlines/#comment-8123</link>
		<dc:creator>DENNIS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No....Ireland, does not need 2 airlines for the size of a country...</description>
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		<title>By: Uma in Liverpool, UK</title>
		<link>http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/02/does-ireland-really-need-two-airlines/#comment-8043</link>
		<dc:creator>Uma in Liverpool, UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Clyde Barker and Dominick

Wrong thread, guys.  Try looking at the question, before you post.

In re: Aer Lingus, if the Irish Government could find another Flag carrier with whom to join forces, that would be good.  Ryan-Air isn&#039;t so much &#039;Irish&#039;, as &#039;happens to be based in Ireland&#039;.  Aer Lingus is Irish.

It guts me to see the venerable flag carriers of the European Countries falling, like dominoes.  I know I am old-fashioned, but I come from a generation for whom flying was &lt;i&gt;better&lt;/i&gt; than being crammed aboard what amounts to an airborne &lt;i&gt;bus&lt;/i&gt;.

The luxury amenities for people who pay heaps of money have got out of control.  The complete absence of amenities, for reasonable-cost air-travel has also got out of control.

I have nothing against &#039;no-frills&#039; airlines, if that is how people choose to fly.  I wish there were a medium-range, in which &#039;economy-class&#039; was not &#039;no-frills&#039;, but rather, just not &#039;first-class&#039;, where the seats were a reasonable width, and spaced far enough apart for tall people, and meals, drinks, and so forth, were the way they were, 30 years ago.  I believe there are many people who would gladly pay extra, to fly with the comfort of &#039;economy-class&#039; as it was in the 1970s,  rather than be air-freight.  I also expect a &lt;i&gt;huge&lt;/i&gt; number of &#039;business-class&#039; flyers would drop to that style of &#039;economy&#039;, where amenities are not ludicrous, but are also not absent.

The airlines are making a mistake, by polarising the &#039;cheap-seats&#039;  and the &#039;stupidly expensive class&#039; so much.  For short-haul flights, it isn&#039;t too bad.  Long-haul, in what now passes for &#039;economy&#039;, even on Lufthansa, is a fairly miserable experience.

I remember when flying was &lt;i&gt;gracious&lt;/i&gt;.  You don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to be Qatar Air to make passengers &lt;i&gt;comfortable&lt;/i&gt;.

I think Aer Lingus should try to remain Ireland&#039;s flag carrier, by making a deal with someone.  I &lt;i&gt;hope&lt;/i&gt; in better times, that all these mergers can un-merge, so each national airline can return to reflecting the nation for whom it flies.  There will always be customers for the Ryan-Airs of the world.  I shall not be one of them.  I am too old to spend long stretches of time in a cattle-car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Clyde Barker and Dominick</p>
<p>Wrong thread, guys.  Try looking at the question, before you post.</p>
<p>In re: Aer Lingus, if the Irish Government could find another Flag carrier with whom to join forces, that would be good.  Ryan-Air isn&#039;t so much &#039;Irish&#039;, as &#039;happens to be based in Ireland&#039;.  Aer Lingus is Irish.</p>
<p>It guts me to see the venerable flag carriers of the European Countries falling, like dominoes.  I know I am old-fashioned, but I come from a generation for whom flying was <i>better</i> than being crammed aboard what amounts to an airborne <i>bus</i>.</p>
<p>The luxury amenities for people who pay heaps of money have got out of control.  The complete absence of amenities, for reasonable-cost air-travel has also got out of control.</p>
<p>I have nothing against &#039;no-frills&#039; airlines, if that is how people choose to fly.  I wish there were a medium-range, in which &#039;economy-class&#039; was not &#039;no-frills&#039;, but rather, just not &#039;first-class&#039;, where the seats were a reasonable width, and spaced far enough apart for tall people, and meals, drinks, and so forth, were the way they were, 30 years ago.  I believe there are many people who would gladly pay extra, to fly with the comfort of &#039;economy-class&#039; as it was in the 1970s,  rather than be air-freight.  I also expect a <i>huge</i> number of &#039;business-class&#039; flyers would drop to that style of &#039;economy&#039;, where amenities are not ludicrous, but are also not absent.</p>
<p>The airlines are making a mistake, by polarising the &#039;cheap-seats&#039;  and the &#039;stupidly expensive class&#039; so much.  For short-haul flights, it isn&#039;t too bad.  Long-haul, in what now passes for &#039;economy&#039;, even on Lufthansa, is a fairly miserable experience.</p>
<p>I remember when flying was <i>gracious</i>.  You don&#039;t <i>have</i> to be Qatar Air to make passengers <i>comfortable</i>.</p>
<p>I think Aer Lingus should try to remain Ireland&#039;s flag carrier, by making a deal with someone.  I <i>hope</i> in better times, that all these mergers can un-merge, so each national airline can return to reflecting the nation for whom it flies.  There will always be customers for the Ryan-Airs of the world.  I shall not be one of them.  I am too old to spend long stretches of time in a cattle-car.</p>
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		<title>By: bigjoerice</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The United Auto workers should not be giving financial concessions &quot;

&quot;Gm opened in 1902 , Ford in 1903 , and Chrysler in 1925&quot;

And this relates to airlines how? Try and keep up......

Sam in Spain - clearly you were lucky enough to do your flying in a different time. 

Whether you sit in first class or steerage, airline travel today is a miserable experience, from check in and security, until you play &quot;did they lose my bags&quot; in baggage claim.  

I think that you might have another avenue to consider about the future of air travel. I think that those who can afford to fly in First Class will start to move to the many business jet operations that are springing up around the world, and leave scheduled airline travel to the great unwashed. 

Netjets is flourishing worldwide and their prices are becoming very competitive to the scheduled airlines; a situation that will only improve as more people take advantage of the service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;The United Auto workers should not be giving financial concessions &#034;</p>
<p>&#034;Gm opened in 1902 , Ford in 1903 , and Chrysler in 1925&#034;</p>
<p>And this relates to airlines how? Try and keep up......</p>
<p>Sam in Spain &#8211; clearly you were lucky enough to do your flying in a different time. </p>
<p>Whether you sit in first class or steerage, airline travel today is a miserable experience, from check in and security, until you play &#034;did they lose my bags&#034; in baggage claim.  </p>
<p>I think that you might have another avenue to consider about the future of air travel. I think that those who can afford to fly in First Class will start to move to the many business jet operations that are springing up around the world, and leave scheduled airline travel to the great unwashed. </p>
<p>Netjets is flourishing worldwide and their prices are becoming very competitive to the scheduled airlines; a situation that will only improve as more people take advantage of the service.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gm opened in 1902 , Ford in 1903 , and Chrysler in 1925.. as close as I can estimate .. so about  83 - 106 years in business ... what did they do with all of the profits that they have made .. surely in the last year or 2 they could not have lost that many years of &quot;profit&quot; , I belive that this deserves more investigation before the tax payers foot the bill to the tune of 34 billion plus .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gm opened in 1902 , Ford in 1903 , and Chrysler in 1925.. as close as I can estimate .. so about  83 &#8211; 106 years in business ... what did they do with all of the profits that they have made .. surely in the last year or 2 they could not have lost that many years of &#034;profit&#034; , I belive that this deserves more investigation before the tax payers foot the bill to the tune of 34 billion plus .....</p>
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		<title>By: Clyde Barker</title>
		<link>http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/02/does-ireland-really-need-two-airlines/#comment-7916</link>
		<dc:creator>Clyde Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The United Auto workers should not be giving financial concessions without making sure management also gets to give. Management should no longer get pay in excess of 10 times the lowest paid employee ! IMHO !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The United Auto workers should not be giving financial concessions without making sure management also gets to give. Management should no longer get pay in excess of 10 times the lowest paid employee ! IMHO !</p>
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		<title>By: bert shlensky</title>
		<link>http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/02/does-ireland-really-need-two-airlines/#comment-7895</link>
		<dc:creator>bert shlensky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>isn&#039;t it interesting that congress asked the auto companies to submit their plans and all the hearings consist of is the politicing of senators  Congress really needs to listen to people to develop reasonable decisons .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isn&#039;t it interesting that congress asked the auto companies to submit their plans and all the hearings consist of is the politicing of senators  Congress really needs to listen to people to develop reasonable decisons .</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earl from Florida is right about one thing. Aer Lingus will not survive on their own, but he is totally wrong about Ryanair. They have the best business model that ever existed in the airline business. They will make more acquisitions in Europe and looking to the future, as soon as they start long haul flights through the eventual take over of Aer Lingus, American Airlines, Delta etc better watch their backs. Ryan air have an eye on taking their long haul business to Europe too. Employment is not great in Ireland after the end of the Celtic Tiger, but when things turn around again, as they will do,  a country like Ireland with a small but well educated English speaking population will recover faster than the bigger economies. Bigger population means bigger problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earl from Florida is right about one thing. Aer Lingus will not survive on their own, but he is totally wrong about Ryanair. They have the best business model that ever existed in the airline business. They will make more acquisitions in Europe and looking to the future, as soon as they start long haul flights through the eventual take over of Aer Lingus, American Airlines, Delta etc better watch their backs. Ryan air have an eye on taking their long haul business to Europe too. Employment is not great in Ireland after the end of the Celtic Tiger, but when things turn around again, as they will do,  a country like Ireland with a small but well educated English speaking population will recover faster than the bigger economies. Bigger population means bigger problems.</p>
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		<title>By: maria</title>
		<link>http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/02/does-ireland-really-need-two-airlines/#comment-7868</link>
		<dc:creator>maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No , they don&#039;t need two airlines, but they surely don&#039;t need Ryanair to be the &#039;national&#039; one.  It has no regards for it&#039;s clients/passengers and even less for their flight crew, who work (too) long hours for dismall pay. Let&#039;s hope they won&#039;t be too tired if something bad happens on board.  
And how about the way passengers are treated when a flight is canceled or delayed ??? You will just have to fend four yourself !!!
I will not fly that company, ever !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No , they don&#039;t need two airlines, but they surely don&#039;t need Ryanair to be the &#039;national&#039; one.  It has no regards for it&#039;s clients/passengers and even less for their flight crew, who work (too) long hours for dismall pay. Let&#039;s hope they won&#039;t be too tired if something bad happens on board.<br />
And how about the way passengers are treated when a flight is canceled or delayed ??? You will just have to fend four yourself !!!<br />
I will not fly that company, ever !!</p>
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