December 9th, 2011
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Brussels (CNN) – The statement from UK Prime Minister David Cameron reminding everyone that the go-it-alone E17+ agreement is not under EU treaties is the sort of thing the other countries will be dreading. He is basically saying, "OK – have your side treaty BUT since it is not under the EU rules then it can't trump the EU process and the Commission and Courts can't play favorites."

This is setting the stage for a long, drawn-out, sulking relationship as the Ins get closer and the Outs keep reminding them that their deal is not an "official" EU institution sanctioned by the whole EU.

We have put the clock back to the days when Britain was the enfant terrible of the European Union.



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  1. Bruno

    S&P downgrades UK to junk status. S&P upgrades Europe to AAA.

    December 9, 2011 at 11:26 am |
  2. Hmmm

    Why would they ? UK doesn't use EURO...

    December 9, 2011 at 11:36 am |
  3. Bonez2

    I love how Europe is scrambling and trying every which way to make Britain pay for something it has no business paying. Trying to impose Transaction taxes? The EU was the biggest mistake in euro history.

    December 9, 2011 at 11:48 am |
  4. Jack Randall

    Hate to break it to you Bruno but the opposite is actually happening.

    December 9, 2011 at 11:50 am |
  5. illywacker1

    @ Jack The Queen and other European royals, as well as aristocrats, including the Duke of Westminster, enjoy subsidies from The EU. Apparently the UK does need the EU.

    The Queen qualified for £473,500 in farm aid in 2008 for Sandringham Farms, her 20,000-acre retreat and home to four generations of British monarchs since 1862.

    The Duke of Westminster, Britain's third richest person with a fortune estimated at £6.5 billion, benefited from a public EU subsidy of £486,534. His Polish dairy businesses, Top Farms, benefited by more than 8 million euros in subsidies from 2006 to 2007.

    December 9, 2011 at 12:09 pm |
  6. Bruno

    S&P downgrades Jack Randall to junk status.

    December 9, 2011 at 12:09 pm |
  7. Victor

    Use Articles 20 TEU, 326-334 TFEU for solving the fiscal problems of the 17

    December 9, 2011 at 12:36 pm |
  8. POLLEKE

    Hello Richard Quest,

    how about some positive views.
    the real thinkers will agree with the following.
    forget all the emotions, we have centuries to go and after that nobody will know about the kingdom of Belgium or the Queen of England anymore.

    EUROPE and the EURO.
    December 2011

    What is the future of Europe ????

    Do we want to grow???? And what are we willing to share ???

    How can we grow strong and stronger???

    Only by changing !! And a lot of people will not like changes and therefore halt progress.

    I have to admit I am a royalist, but at the same time royalty has no longer a direct place in a Europe that wants to grow and compete on the world market.
    Look at the British Empire and at the Kingdom of the Netherlands. A world power before the last war and now just as much a member of the EU as all the other states. Kings and Queens now have ceremonial roles, far different from their previous roles as Head of State. I am sorry to say that I see no future for these ruling families in the future of Europe.
    What is their role once we sort of have a President of Europe????? No more than a puppet and who wants to be seen as a puppet.
    If countries want to be a member of a United Europe we may want to take a look at the United States. How much as we do not like to compare ourselves with Uncle Sam. There we see states united under one flag, with one language, one dollar and with one government in Washington DC. If we want to copy part of that we must give away local and national powers to an elected European Central Government. And we better see to it that we will have more elected parties than the two in the American electoral system.
    I always think about my grandparents who were born just before 1900. The changes they have seen in the world are far larger than the switch we have to make. It is a lot about emotions now.
    Do we lose our King or our Queen, our flag our national anthem, maybe our language??? All nasty things, but something has to give in order to proceed. Do we lose control of our own little national destiny, YES. But what do we stand to gain?????
    We have to look to the future. If we do not take steps soon we certainly will lose out to the big ones of the future China, USA, India, Brazil, Russia.
    We the people have to decide what destiny we want.
    Just chose.

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    December 9, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
  9. Asante

    the world must watchout to solve problems of the day,instead of the blame games.

    December 9, 2011 at 1:28 pm |
  10. suphachai

    this is just the second round. before the bell ring at final round, something can happen and i hope the best thing will rise.

    December 9, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
  11. Mary

    POLLEKE, you have some good ideas, but your comparison of the United States and a united Europe is an apples-and-oranges comparison.

    The United States share a common language, a common history, and a common culture. Immigrants are assimilated into a common society. This is not true of the nation states of Europe.

    I think that it is best for the nation states of Europe not to assimilate. I think that the European union was a mistake. The strong nations are under pressure to endanger their own economic security by "bailing out" the weak. This can only drag down all the nations of Europe.

    December 9, 2011 at 2:00 pm |
  12. Dusman

    The Euro is and will allways be a big problem form mortage too a cup of coffe the prices are 2x more than what is realy worth our old currency is 2.26 to one Euro the ECB ex president said in 2002 not to covert the Euro to the old currency
    and look what as happened 10 years of tremoil i dont blame U.K one bit i wish that the Euro never happened and many people feel the same about 40% wish that our old currency is back in our hands....so long the Euro stays there will allways be Europe in Tremoil

    December 9, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
  13. John

    The UK has no right to impose its will on the other EU nations.
    The UK is welcome to join the train, but if it prefers to get out....
    Ciao !

    December 9, 2011 at 2:53 pm |
  14. Rory

    I think its very fortunate that the French and Germans are kicking us here in the UK – we know all too well what happens when they start kicking each other! Watch this space! Anyone who knows France knows they won't actually follow any rules – damn good at making them but never been known to adhere to one! Europe is a great place, most Brits love it, because of its variety, cultural difference and lingusitic chaos. Just imagine the USA if all the states spoke different languages. What if some thought a four hour lunch was their right whilst others worked away to pay their bills? Europe is wonderful because it is so dramatically different each time you cross a line on a map. Those differences do not make for a good cultural, linguistic or financial union.

    Perhaps a single currency can work, if there is a single common language – which language do you think it might be? Will the French ever accept English, or the Germans French, or the Spanish German. Dream on dear Eurohiles, but please next, time you want to beat each other up can we sit that one out?!

    December 9, 2011 at 3:10 pm |
  15. Bruno's Economic Advisor

    This just in – Bruno has no clue.

    December 9, 2011 at 4:03 pm |
  16. MI5

    Who's Bruno?

    December 9, 2011 at 6:23 pm |
  17. Michael

    The UK is a member of the EU so it does have a right to "impose its will" as you said John.

    December 9, 2011 at 7:43 pm |
  18. Sarah

    Bruno, stick to what you know, ballroom dancing!

    December 10, 2011 at 4:06 am |
  19. george felner

    Was surreal but perhaps Cameron knows what hes doing.. perhaps. Funny cartoon sketch on that.. funny cartoon on that summit on youtube.. type thatshowitreallywas and find Island Euro

    December 12, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
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