January 6th, 2012
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London (CNN) – Shock! Horror! Crisis! Apple’s iPhone was not the top selling phone at Christmas – Samsung’s Galaxy S II was. Can this be? What has gone wrong? Surely some mistake?

OK – I need to declare I am not an Apple worshipper. Yes, I have an iPad, which I l love, and an old iPod which I use when travelling, but otherwise I am a PC person through and through.

I tell you this in advance because there is nothing more polarizing that the subject of Apple versus the rest of the world.

Apple users believe they have seen the light and are messianic about the company. Everyone else thinks the Appleites have drunk the Kool-Aid, probably need therapy and gleefully look forward to when the Apple empire’s cool veneer starts to wear thin.

Now there are whispers that that process may have begun. In addition to beating out Apple’s iPhone over Christmas, Samsung, which uses the Android platform, is now the biggest seller of smartphones in the world, according to the latest data.

The train is getting up a head of steam – partly led by Brian Deagon, who predicted in an Investors.com article that “Apple will lose its cool factor” in 2012.

“The iPhone is boxy, flat and feeling stale. The Samsung Galaxy smartphone seems cooler,” he writes. “Smartphones and tablets will become commodity items and Apple will be eaten by the collective Android gang.”

It seems Samsung has managed to do something that eluded others – cloak themselves in the coolness that was previously Apple’s.

The latest ambush ad from Samsung hits Apple users’ “I’m too sexy for my shirt” attitude right between the eyes. The message: while cool is OK, if someone else has a better product, suddenly your coolness looks like your parents disco-dancing in the village hall under florescent lights.

For Apple, the jury is still deliberating on the effect Steve Job’s death will have on the company. Android has very well funded partners and a strong business model. If this sniping continues, Apple will be forced on the defensive.

By now Appleites are frothing and ready to hit their MacBook Air keys to put me down. Well go ahead – but never forget Apple fell from grace once before. There is no immutable law that says it can’t happen again.



soundoff (225 Responses)
  1. Apple Inc, baby!

    Personally, I am an Apple fan, everything I own is Apple, from iPads to iPods to iPhones and Macs etc. Also, this article doesn't mean Apple isn't #1, just that a lot of people already have the iPhone 4S, and they are satisfied, as always. :)

    January 6, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
  2. Apple Inc, baby!

    Get home from school (I'm 12) and I'm right to my iPad, iPod, or Mac. We've had this iMac for almost 4 years and had no problems whatsoever. This just goes to show the quality of Apple products, and how amazing they are. I am a 12 year old middle school girl and I love Apple Inc!

    January 6, 2012 at 8:17 pm |
  3. Stefan

    I never had anything from apple and i dont think i ever will. Its nice equipment perhaps, but it has no use for me. So cool? No it has never been. Dont get me wrong, as i said, it might be nice stuff, but the things i demand in a computer is something that apple does not offer.

    January 6, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
  4. giZmo

    there are more windows users then the mac osx,
    more ppl that are too busy hating Apple products to notice the fact that the Apple platform is simply.. better.
    android can be more cool, more compatible and more what ever but as long as the Iphone (and any other mac)
    have the smoother and more easy to use platform.. android can keep trying to copy and duplicate apps to try and became
    "more apple" and hope that apple will not pull another rabbit out of the hat and show them again who is better then the.. well.. the rest.

    January 6, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
  5. MacUser

    As an avid Mac user, I was surprised to find out that Apple will not let users delete their @me.com email addresses or their Apple ID's. Apple obviously doesn't want its customers to leave, but the thought that one can never opt-out of using Apple or that one does not control ones own email account is very unnerving (and annoying).

    January 6, 2012 at 8:35 pm |
  6. BK

    I'd say if your idea of being cool is driving a Hyundai rather than a BMW, then yes, Samsung is the coolest.

    January 6, 2012 at 8:36 pm |
  7. Lilly

    Apple Inc, baby! If a 12 year old thinks something is cool then I'm definitely steering clear of it.

    January 6, 2012 at 8:36 pm |
  8. notgiZmo

    @giZmo "notice the fact that the Apple platform is simply.. better."

    Well... since there are a variety of things I simply cannot do unless I boot my Mac into Windows, I'm going to chalk that up as "not better".

    January 6, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
  9. Jimbo

    @MacUser... You are so right! Its very annoying, especially since you can delete in gmail in about 5 seconds. I mean what would happen if your account was hacked? You could never close it!!! Apple is good, but they need to change their policy and reduce their death grip on their customers!!!

    January 6, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
  10. Alex

    @notgiZmo... The reason you have to boot into Windows for certain programs is a developer and market share issue, it has nothing to do with the quality of the platform itself and is not something Apple has much control over. For example, Office for Mac sucks, why can't Microsoft just make an exact copy of its Windows version that runs on Mac instead of ruining the interface, shortcuts, VBA, and everything else? Because then corporations could switch to Mac much more easily. IMO, Apple dropped the ball with Numbers, Pages, and Keynote. I would just make them Office clones, so the transition would be seamless and there would be no learning curve (or people will just keep using Windows for Office purposes)...

    PS – Haven't you heard of Parallels or VMWare?

    January 6, 2012 at 8:57 pm |
  11. CEW

    It *does* seem like the world is divided into two camps: apple fanboys and apple haters, and both seem to have this utterly unexplainable scorn for the other. We each like what we like, and we have our reasons. Leave it at that, and quit caring or scorning what someone else likes.

    January 6, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
  12. Tom

    I think CNN and the rest of the world should wait until Apple releases its quarterly earnings in a few weeks before spouting off like this.

    January 6, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
  13. RS

    Oh my Lord, this article was amazing. I was one of those contributing to the Galaxy S II being the highest selling phone this holiday break!! Went with AT&T's 4G LTE Skyrocket version and I love it. You have so much more access to its internal properties and settings than you do with the iPhone. I'll never go back to that archaic iOS technology.

    January 6, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
  14. Petra

    Is Apple losing its cool factor? No. So the point of this article is what, exactly? I've read it twice and all it does is demonstrate how little Mr. Quest knows. A good journalist writes when he or she has something to say. The fools write because they have to say something. I love CNN; it's my favorite news network and Richard Quest is ordinarily, exceptionally thought provoking. That said, I can't help but feel this story exists to simply break up the expanse of white pixels that would otherwise be here. Sorry, but your game is slipping….. :-(

    January 6, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
  15. Rodin

    Apple has had so many breakthroughs and all of their products are beautifully made and rarely break down. The death of Steve Jobs may have some effect on the quality of new offerings but I feel that the Apple corporation as a whole will prevail.

    January 6, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
  16. JJ

    Interesting. @Alex – developer support is a large portion of the true value of a computing platform. Which is why, as a developer, I am truly floored by Apple's policies towards them, especially in the mobile space. Without an ecosystem of apps, the iPhone would be much less valuable – and yet, Apple exerts almost totalitarian control over what can go on the phone, requires all apps to be downloaded from the AppStore (from which Apple takes a 30% cut), and even if you want to write and distribute an App for free, you are required to register and pay Apple $100 per year just for the privilege of adding to their platform. Luckily, there's more than one game in town, and I'd prefer to invest my time in learning a platform that doesn't actively punish developers. For that reason, I'm delighted to see the popularity of the Android platform, especially in developing nations.

    January 6, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
  17. Mark

    I have an iPAD2, an HTC HD2 and just bought a Samsung Galaxy Note, so I have a quite diverse background and I can say your article hits the spot. People who are not just "fans", but actual powerusers of multiple technologies will agree with you – Apple looks so 1999 in comparison to Samsung if you hold a Galaxy Note in your hand. (HTC is also good, but Samsung.. wow!) I mean, the screen and speed of the Samsung Galaxy Note are OUTLANDISH – I have never held a piece of technology in my hand that screamed "Apple you are lame" in such a loud voice as with this one.. it´s very true also that people who "stick to one brand" cannot see beyond it, so extra kudos for writing this article. You will get a lot of hate for it :)

    January 6, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
  18. David Mildenberg

    OK. So you are writing an article about Apple loosing its cool based on Christmas sales. Maybe you should also write about Aston Martin, Bentley, Ferrari and Porsche all being outsold by Toyota on Christmas too.
    It seems as if you are not considering that Apple products are elite products. Apple consumers like myself have come to the realization that when something works almost flawlessly, has a fabulous design, and integrates its family of devices in such an elegant manner, there is no reason not to pay the extra buck. And yes, we are happy to pay for quality. You are mistaken if you think Apple is about coolness, and that Apple consumers purchase based on coolness. The coolness of their products is just a consequence of an amazing team of people putting their heads together to make a family of products that work great, look nice, and are user friendly like no other in their class.
    Perhaps the reason why you are still a PC user is because you have come to relate a product with the people that have adopted it, and you haven´t yourself realized how the integration, stability and ease of use offered by Apple would change your life by saving you time an money, allowing you to spend more time being cool and not writing lame articles. As long as people continue to be cool, intelligent consumers, Apple will continue to put out amazing products and people like yourself will continue to be baffled by how it is possible for us to be happy living in bliss in a world where everything just works.

    January 6, 2012 at 11:11 pm |
  19. David Mildenberg

    By the way, Richard Quest, I think you are a remarkable. But this particular post just sucked.

    January 6, 2012 at 11:16 pm |
  20. Tom Moulton

    He is missing a couple of important points.

    1. Apple makes more Profit on its iPhone than all the other smartphone suppliers combined, including Samsung.
    2. The Samsung products are CHEAPER. And like all cheap products, they sell more.

    January 6, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
  21. Dom

    Many people tend to forget how easily the Iphone's screen cracked compared to almost any high end android phone.

    January 6, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
  22. Steve

    Well of course the Samsung Galaxy is cool its a direct copy of an Iphone. Lets see something they design themselves, instead of being little asian thieves

    January 6, 2012 at 11:44 pm |
  23. Morganne

    Samsungs may be cheaper, but that does not mean inferior.

    I coveted an Ipad when one of my colleagues showed up with one in September, beginning of the college year. I bought one a few weeks later. It's very unintuitive, difficult to use, and frankly not worth the bother. I might use it in the coming semester for comparative images – I teach in museums in Greece – but I haven't as yet figured out how to make that viable.

    It sucks. I wanted a Samsung (based on internet research), but the stores here abroad weren't selling (or pushing) them. I travel-teach a lot, and my baby Toshiba accompanies me everywhere. If I do take the Ipad with me, my Toshiba is with it.

    I'm with Richard.

    The Apple will rot one day.

    January 6, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
  24. Morganne

    The Ipad uses a Samsung screen, but the Samsung is better.

    January 6, 2012 at 11:54 pm |
  25. octopus

    Ummm... I think Richard Quest is the only one who's "frothing" – or cares about the subject at all. The so called "Apple fans" don't really care about what "market share" is and who's the "best seller" – they just buy the products they happen to like.

    >"...the effect Steve Job’s death will have"

    You know it's "Steve Jobs" not "Steve Job", just in case.

    January 7, 2012 at 12:13 am |
  26. CKS

    Excuse me, Apple is not only selling coolness using Iphone 4s but also icon. If you went outside the street, people view every BOXY and rectangular shape phone as IPHONE 4s, including the China Made fake branded phone. This has implement strong recognization to human's mind. Samsung models are too many and many people tend to make mistake on its model due to variant shape of model. Some will not able to recognize it due to out phasing by new Samsung phone.

    January 7, 2012 at 12:52 am |
  27. panda

    what are you all whining about?
    people who buy apple products want it for a specific use.

    people who buy android products, want it for a completely different reason than those who buy apple. i've found (this is just my experience) that those who by android devices are more "tech-heads" than those who get apple devices.

    and there is also a reason they call hacking the apple devices "jailbreaking". its not meant for customisation, where as the android devices are. they are built for customisation.

    i'm not against apple, i believe they have good quality products over all.
    they just dont suit my wants and needs.

    January 7, 2012 at 12:55 am |
  28. -

    Personally I can't stand Samsung because they DON'T INNOVATE but COPY others products. That is why I won't buy their products.

    BTW what were Samsung, Sony, Google and Microsoft doing before the Iphone or Ipad?: Nothing that look like the Iphone, Ipad or other apple products... But now they all do... They all copy because they cannot innovate by themselves... It is sad and pathetic to see those mutibillion dollars companies not being able to invent.

    January 7, 2012 at 12:56 am |
  29. peter

    What Apple fans seem to ignore is that every time they buy an apple product , they're helping make China that much wealthier and more powerful....

    January 7, 2012 at 1:17 am |
  30. Stephen Falk

    What's idiotic is this discussion..

    I use a computer or a phone, or a technological WHATEVER to perform a specific task, to be creative.
    When articles like this talk about being a PC person through and through, what of it?
    Macs are personal computers, and Windows PC's are personal computers..
    Phones are phones.
    When it deteriorates into the cool factor of a particular phone, you know the world really needs to be
    flushed down the toilet..
    Anybody who loves their phone, or their pc really needs a therapist.
    And no I'm not telling you what OS or phone I use..oooo...it's a dirty secret.

    January 7, 2012 at 1:26 am |
  31. Android Jello

    I knew this would happen it was only a matter of time; Steve Jobs was the reason Apple was so successful. This is the real world, enough with the Apple Fanboy messiah mentality, it's repugnant. The world belongs to Android!!

    January 7, 2012 at 1:50 am |
  32. deh2k

    Man, you are so delusional. The iPhone actually did outsell all other smartphones this holiday season, and the company will be reporting another blowout quarter this month. Write about something real for a change!

    January 7, 2012 at 1:51 am |
  33. Android Gangs

    proud to have 4G Samsung Galaxy SII . The best in the market. looking forward for Galaxy SIII / Nexus.

    January 7, 2012 at 2:07 am |
  34. Pete

    Mr. Quest is obviously missing the boat. It is not "coolness" that makes Apple what it is. "Coolness" is a result of the great quality and, more importantly, the usability of the products. Apple makes great tools! I can produce more with my iMac, MacMini, iPhone, iPad or MacBooks in a shorter time than with any Windows machine. I use both and simply put, Apple has made and continues to make superior products.

    January 7, 2012 at 2:14 am |
  35. Mish

    I was an Android user from day one, with the T-Mobile G1 and subsequent models, right up to the Galaxy S 2, but I've recently made the move over to the new iPhone 4S and couldn't be happier with my decision.

    I work in the industry and get a lot of phones and tablets passing through my hands and having a device, like the iPhone, which performs far more reliably than any Android device I've used, is a real boon.

    These thinner, faster Google driven phones may be trendy but they're still quite a way away from being the finished article, and once users start cottoning on they will head back to the simplicity that Apple offer in my opinion.

    January 7, 2012 at 2:53 am |
  36. Anonymous

    Steve jobs was apple

    the descent of apple started with passing of Steve jobs

    January 7, 2012 at 3:08 am |
  37. JOHN X

    You have all been suckered !!!! How to get reader attention well you pit 2 groups against each other. What better sparring partners other than MAC and PC/Android users. I take my hate of to them BRAVO!

    I must admit that the comments make for better reading than the actual article LOL :)

    January 7, 2012 at 3:32 am |
  38. Klipsi

    Apple can't loose its cool factor. It never had one. Expensive, yes. Cool ? As compared to hot, maybe.

    January 7, 2012 at 3:48 am |
  39. Media Designer

    Who really cares? It's all horses for courses. You buy gear that does what you need. Perhaps that's Apple, perhaps it's made by someone else. Unless you have Apple shares, none of this matters. I'm a PC? I'm a Mac? No, you're not. You're people with work to do. How you do it is up to you.

    January 7, 2012 at 3:50 am |
  40. shabaz

    I dunno, some things are better using Apple, some things are better in Windows or Android. I find the solution is to own an IPOD/IPAD and a Macbook and Windows laptop. And for phones, I use a Samsung Galaxy and a Blackberry (The Apple apps are already in the IPOD).
    Whats the big deal?

    January 7, 2012 at 3:53 am |
  41. HaHa

    he! he! It's just time to buy my new phone. Ive long been waiting with my 2G phone...^^. I think my next phone will be Galaxy S II note LTE. Why? Big screen and the best speed!!

    January 7, 2012 at 4:24 am |
  42. shabaz

    My screwdriver SII is better than your iscrewdriver because yours was sold by a man in a cool turtle neck who talked at Stanford while the other was made by 2 guys in cool jeans who went to Stanford.

    I have never been to Stanford but it appears to attract excellet scredriver sellers,

    January 7, 2012 at 4:25 am |
  43. Ghp

    My Galaxy S2 lasted only 3 month and ONE drop.
    The screen cracked and it costs 250 to fix, way to go Samsung.
    Back to the IPhone.
    The Galaxy is slick, but the SW sucks, Apple has it licked.

    January 7, 2012 at 4:35 am |
  44. Anonymous

    Guys. Chill. It's just a phone. And it's just a company. Yes, I agree they make neat products. But there are certain flaws that the iPhone has that Samsung realized they should fix. For example, iPhones are notorious for the screen breaking. Just dropping it 2 inches to the ground can absolutely destroy your screen. Samsung made the Galaxy SII with Gorilla Glass, which is virtually unbreakable and unscratchable. Basically, Samsung has a better product than Apple. I've always thought better products were cooler.

    January 7, 2012 at 4:36 am |
  45. Mark

    We all have our reasons for the tools we decide to use – Macs, PCs...etc I love apple and its products but the question here is are there cooler products out there – apart from apple – YES and I love them too – I have a samsung phone and it works just fine – and the S II is a very cool phone – in fact i know people who have iphone 4 and are considering getting the samsung – the thing is if every product maker tries this hard to make better and cooler products we all gain...all the same apple is among the biggest "cool" trend setters!!!

    January 7, 2012 at 5:14 am |
  46. John Jameson

    Sure Samsung sells more phones than Apple, but who makes more money from selling phones? As the old rule for entrepreneurs goes, revenue is vanity, profit is sanity. What's 'cool' about Apple products is how they work, not how they look. I've used PCs since about 1983, but in the last couple of years I've moved to Apple and now have iPhone, iPad, MacBook Air. And when I had to go bak to using a PC over Christmas it was painful. I'd agree that the latest iPhone was a bit of a disappointment: not because it's a bad product, but because it was only an incremental improvement. I'm looking forward to seeing what they come up with for the iPhone 5.

    January 7, 2012 at 5:18 am |
  47. joel

    I have a S2 and i say it is the best

    January 7, 2012 at 5:35 am |
  48. meow mix

    Maybe there is a reason why every product that is released is always compared to Apple products

    January 7, 2012 at 5:53 am |
  49. jack

    How dare you criticize Apple? How dare you?

    January 7, 2012 at 6:02 am |
  50. Segway

    Anyone who still slags the Mac (or the Apple brand) has just simply never truly experienced it. I've used both Windows and Mac platforms. Time after time, it has always been so clear which one was the better one and that is, the Mac. I guess the ones who haven't yet really experienced the Mac have been too busy getting rid of viruses, worms, spyware, etc... on their computers or, they have been busy rebooting their PCs because Windows crashed!!

    January 7, 2012 at 6:06 am |
  51. John G

    Love your wife and your kids. Love your parents. Live your life!

    January 7, 2012 at 6:19 am |
  52. Taa

    Apple=Justin Bieber. I don't own any Apple Product Nor do i like Justin Bieber song, But i'm just fed up with it cause it's everywhere and it's so annoying. Im Glad that Samsung Beats Apple. I think Apple sucks haha

    January 7, 2012 at 6:22 am |
  53. John G

    I used to be Ericsson -> SonyEricsson fan. I know have an iPhone 4 and very happy. I am an IT technical person and I find android unintuitive. I am happy for my friend who is happy with his Galaxy Nexus. Cool feature to monitor applications data usage.
    I used to be a Sony fan for laptops. I know have iMac, Mac pro, MacBook pro and I won't be changing to Windows anytime soon.

    January 7, 2012 at 6:24 am |
  54. Ewc

    I don't know about Apple, but iphone fanboys and hipsters in general have DEFINITELY lost their cool factor...

    January 7, 2012 at 6:31 am |
  55. AKS

    Apple all the way. Its amazing echo system.

    January 7, 2012 at 6:43 am |
  56. Silviu Radulescu

    SAMSUNG and COOL in the same sentence? This is funny. I have a samsung vacuum cleaner. Cheaper, maybe. COOLER? No WAY. Just sayin'.

    January 7, 2012 at 6:58 am |
  57. Lloyd

    Data used in this article is from Q3 and not current. And didn't Apple actually have more activations on xmas than Google's Android? Why not wait 2 weeks for the current quarterly reports. It appears that Apple will have sold a couple million more units than Samsung. If you believe some analysts reports anyway, which are about as meaningful as this article.

    January 7, 2012 at 6:59 am |
  58. Desmond

    I bought a Samsung android smartphone two years ago and I got so much problem with it that I switched to Apple iPhone. I never want to switch back again.

    January 7, 2012 at 7:51 am |
  59. SouthAustin

    While all you idiots buying overpriced Apple products were wasting your money the last few years I was spending mine on Apple stock . Nicely done Apple fan boys – you.ve secured my retirement and paid for kids college tuition. Keep drinking that Apple Kool Aid and I'll keep laughing all the way to the bank !

    January 7, 2012 at 8:13 am |
  60. cyberbeing

    Apple Inc, baby!
    Get home from school (I'm 12) and I'm right to my iPad, iPod, or Mac. We've had this iMac for almost 4 years and had no problems whatsoever. This just goes to show the quality of Apple products, and how amazing they are. I am a 12 year old middle school girl and I love Apple Inc!

    I DON'T BELIEVE THAT A 12 YEAR OLD GIRL READS BUSINESS BLOGS CNN.

    January 7, 2012 at 9:15 am |
  61. Niall M

    Who cares for the 'cool crowd' – they are all idiots. Let them pose and preen over whatever technology they have, 99% of them don;t know how to use it, whatever it may be, because learning how to work stuff is definitely not a 'cool' occupation. Meanwhile many the rest of us who actually want to get stuff done will continue to use Apple because it is simply the best, most integrated, and most advanced technology company in the world at this moment. At the time of writing, Samsung simply copies everything they do.

    January 7, 2012 at 9:23 am |
  62. Niall M

    ...and incidentally, I owned a Samsung smartphone, it was rubbish, sold it, and the DVR I bought, also Samsung, crashed all the time...went into the supermarket a few months back where there was a loud buzz from the TV display... as an experiment, I switched off all the SAMSUNG sets and the buzzing was gone...
    Judging by these personal experiences, Samsung are responsible for an enormous amount of sub-par tech that is now broken, way out of proportion to other manufacturers, I sincerely hope they can raise their game.

    January 7, 2012 at 9:27 am |
  63. Alex

    If Apple can make me cool, then they've got some truly amazing products.

    January 7, 2012 at 9:41 am |
  64. freeman70

    To all those who believe Apple products just work. I dropped my aging (by smartphone standards) HTC Incredible S, picked it up and started using it again. Gorilla Glass screen didn't have a single scratch on it. My sister-in-law dropped her iPhone 4 and gasped at the cracked glass when she picked it up. Apple fans can say what they want. After antennae-gate, battery life issues, cut and paste and super easily cracked screens, the reliability claims of their hardware are justified. I will continue to buy Android. Another reason to buy Android is choice. I didn't like HTC Sense on the Incredible S so I installed a different launcher. At least with rooting and such, I have the option of doing exactly what I want with the phone that I purchased. I don't have Apple Inc. telling what I can or can not install on my phone. Apple = walled garden (sanatorium). Android = walled garden with gates (public park). A gilded cage is still a cage.

    January 7, 2012 at 9:42 am |
  65. Iter

    Whats really interesting and funny is the responses to the comment of this article. Apple fans are taking it way to serious, its like Richard attacking them personally.

    And its so fun to read! Apple will fall, Jobs were Apple and Apple were Jobs, the wont last 10 more years....

    January 7, 2012 at 10:48 am |
  66. Lord Sparky

    Without the fearless leader, Apple will suffer until someone as craziness as Steve Jobs comes to CEO. One, a good move would to be lower the price a bit on each product. One reason why not too many like Apple, is because they cost so stinking much.

    January 7, 2012 at 11:35 am |
  67. Mauricio Bonifacino

    Very nice and elegantly putted David Mildenberg, I agree 100 % with both of your comments.

    January 7, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
  68. Luis

    Toyota sells more units yearly, than ferrari... Yet, Which one you like the most, Ferrari F458 or Toyota Corolla?
    The main topic here, is to make a balance, between apple interest, in selling more units and making profit, and selling best units..

    January 7, 2012 at 6:54 pm |
  69. Chris

    The problem I have had with macs since Jobs retook over is that they are not selling a product. They are selling an image.
    At one point in time (pre early 2000's) Apple made a better product. They were better systems. Since then though they use the same hardware about 2 years out of date in price comparisons, proprietary appleness hard coded in. Their OS is slightly smoother, slightly more user friendly and significantly more user restrictive than Windows. Oh and they are 'pretty'.

    January 7, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
  70. Edmund

    why buy fro copy cats Samsung when i can get the original from Apple

    January 7, 2012 at 9:38 pm |
  71. Henderson

    My favorite refrain from apple fanboys is: "Mac's NEVER get viruses because our protection is SO much better!" Actually, that has a lot to do with the fact that virus makers have no interest in writing a virus aimed at 10% of the market. Keep dreaming, fanboys....there's a reason PC's account for the other 90%.

    January 8, 2012 at 12:17 am |
  72. RHOmea

    A) disclaimer – I am a heavy Mac user but deploy equally heavy amounts of Windows platforms for video servers etc professionally. I have an HTC Sensation (US) and an iPhone (EU).
    B) While the HTC/Android do some things better than the iPhone, the disconnect btwn OS and hardware is readily evident in many negative ways. Heavy users like myself find battery life on Android disappointing, lots of user interface issues, and discrepancies from phone to phone.
    C) Using sales as a metric for "Cool" is only done by people who didn't understand the lyrics to "What Is Hip?" Cool doesn't come from adverts or sales figures – if it did, Hannah Montana, Corn Flakes and Exxon would be cool. they are not...
    D) There is one reason only that "sales" of Android phones are skyrocketing: they are given away nearly for FREE to bring/lock in customers. The iPhone experience was quite the opposite: new users were lining up by the millions worldwide to buy the iphone at a PREMIUM to other smartphones (and in the US be condemned to ATT's crap service for years) so the Sales Motivation was the phone, not the price, or lack thereof.

    BTW – remember that 90% of Mac users over 30 were Windows users once. Apple has never been about market share but designing the best possible product made from the best materials and generating the highest ease of use: iTunes, iPhone, Ipad all broke ground for those coming after – and now its "Ultrabooks" which look amazingly like the first Macbook Air.

    January 8, 2012 at 2:08 am |
  73. Niels Swinkels

    As usual, the comments add nothing to the article that in itself already added nothing to anything. Cool factor? What does that even mean...????

    January 8, 2012 at 2:15 am |
  74. RHOmea

    @Henderson – you need to realize how much computing sn't doen on desk/laptops anymore!
    - Ipad was 90% of all tablets, now 67%
    - iPhone was almost 75, now around 55%
    Plenty of targets there for viruses wouldn't you say?
    plain fact is the current version of UNIX underlying iOS/OSX is far more difficult to subvert and requires more programming work and expertise. a Windows virus is like baking cookies, it virtually comes out of a roll.

    January 8, 2012 at 2:16 am |
  75. Steve Green

    I have the original Samsung Galaxy S issued early last year. From the start I could not upgrade to any of the newer Android operating systems. I am stuck on 2.1 Apparently in the Android world the phone manufacture has to approve, modify, etc before you can upgrade. I can not get to any of the new features. So what is the point, if I can not upgrade. I have upgraded my 2.5 year old Ipod Touch three times with no issues. Iphones have their own issues, but at least you can do OS upgrades for a few hardware cycles and not be left out in the cold. Why would I buy another Samsung product?

    January 8, 2012 at 2:40 am |
  76. Tim

    Some people are Apple devotees. Nothing will change this. It has nothing to do with the technology, or the actualy quality/function of the product more is a more visceral requirement – much the same thing that causes BMW buyers to pay more for less

    and that is really it... apple=pay more for less

    You can buy a computer that has the same components as everybody else's but costs twice as much

    You can by a phone that is not 4G (ie still slow internet) is boxy, is unable to replace batteries, and costs much much more.

    Apple then malkes this worse by using non standard connectors, make self upgrade all but impossible and make everything so restrictive that you do it their way or not at all.

    The technology is now a generation out of date but people buy it, and pay more, because THEY perceive themselves as 'cool' even if this is unjustified and not agreed with by everybody else

    If you buy apple products then you have just been mugged

    January 8, 2012 at 3:33 am |
  77. Ryan

    Meh. When the Android / PC crowd actually release something popular that isn't a copy / clone of something Apple's already developed, I'll have a lot more respect for their consumer electronics. The galaxy phone displayed in the photo? Yeah, it's a touchscreen, app-driven smart phone with a single button. Oh wait, who came up with that kind of phone originally? Apple. Others may find a way to copy apple products more cheaply, but for real innovation, on the consumer side at least, Apple clearly has led the way for a long time. When someone other than Apple invents something that becomes the new form of device most everyone uses going forward, like I said, then I'll give them some more credit... but cloning? Not as cool as inventing.

    January 8, 2012 at 4:26 am |
  78. zkali

    You cannot stay cool and be #1 for too long. Mainstream and cool do not go hand in hand. Apple falling behind [on the smartphone market] should put him back in his comfort zone: cool and innovative design and organic platforms. The question is can they sustain their opinion maker minority position without the big man? Shall see...

    January 8, 2012 at 6:59 am |
  79. Layka

    It’s a no brainer that the iPhone will pale into insignificance. Once people use a device that has no restriction they will never look back.

    January 8, 2012 at 8:09 am |
  80. AC

    Last Apple product my family had was an Apple II GS. I like Apple products, but the higher price than many PC's doesn't in my opinion make them worth the extra cost. I honestly know how to use a PC, while I have recently had friends who had Apples and I didn't know what I was doing. I would love an iphone, but really for phone usage all I need is a dumb phone. I have a lap top if I want internet.

    January 8, 2012 at 10:02 am |
  81. AC

    I like PC's and I think Apples are great although I just haven't used them as much. I think the best computer I ever had though was an Amiga A500. I know I'm going super old school on most people, but look it up, it was a great computer.

    January 8, 2012 at 10:24 am |
  82. Jake_in_Seoul

    Richard, I have followed your career with interest for years and do enjoy your on-screen persona, but this piece is frankly embarrassing. The core problem to your thesis is this: there is currently *no* reliable data concerning Samsung mobile phone sales. None. Because last July Samsung announced–without giving a reason–that it would no longer supply official, legally-binding sales figures for its mobile devices. All the data since then on Samsung sales has come from a succession of private research houses, using non-transparent methodologies, and have undisclosed clients, including perhaps even Samsung. There is no verifiable data to check for fudging by these firms. And with Samsung's annual PR budget likely in the billions of pounds, it seems irresponsible of you to trust such unvetted data.

    January 8, 2012 at 10:24 am |
  83. Turd Dog

    @Jake_in_Seoul, you are boring, please never use the word thesis again, for the rest of your life. If you actually want to change anyone's mind you need to talk to them directly, and by that I mean actually speaking to them on a phone/skype or in person, and I actually mean real people talking to each other. Please do not comment again, EVER.

    January 8, 2012 at 10:40 am |
  84. marc

    Bout time someone gave the apple sheep a kick in the teeth..Totally bored of the legions of i this and i that users droning around like the Borg from star trek trying to assimilate everyone who is not an apple robot..way to go Samsung.......I love my Galaxy s 2 and Toshiba laptop ...I also love my ipod too which is an excellent product despite not being able to import the £2000 of music that I have paid for to my phone

    January 8, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
  85. Harry

    I'd say Saumsung is really lucky. I've used iPad, iPod, iPhone just a few days ago, and now I started to use Samsung's newest, Galaxy Note. What I felt was that even though Samsung's products are remarkable, they can't outperform Steve Jobs' creativity. In other words, Samsung is the top now because Jobs is gone.

    January 8, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
  86. Luke Purdy

    Please don't lump all Mac users into one, narrowly defined, category. I'm not sure what it means to be messianic about a company but I do think that Apple makes good products. It appears that hundreds of millions of people agree with me. So please avoid sensationalism and polarizing language in your writing and let your research and insight attract your readers.

    January 8, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
  87. dwt

    The article here disappoints me, because the writer here is clearly, although not stridently, partisan against Apple–at least to the extent that it will clearly put a smile on his face whenever Apple "falls." What's the point here? He'll get to feel he's cooler than he felt before?

    January 8, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
  88. dosa

    one cannot compare the samsung copycats to apple. unfortunately what pc did to mac now others will do to to iPhone. they will copy the heck out of it and then make it eye candy. iPhone is easily the best and has the best ios. but without steve jobs i believe apple innovative edge will fade away. and the media moguls will take over the smartphone industry. apple needs firstly to bring out its iPhone 5 .. and have a new innovative edge to it after passing of steve jobs.

    January 8, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
  89. Future

    This Galaxy is the same phone than the Focus S , however Focus S has the new emerging Windows Phone Mango that is way smother, more stable, more innovative, and easier to use than android. It is a matter of time people realize this. I had an IPhone, then an Android, I could not believe the diference when I got the Mango. That day I thought, what Jobs would say now about Microsoft innovation when an IPhone 4 next to it looks like junk?

    January 8, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
  90. Michael

    Richard Quest, you are an idiot! Simply put. You, sir, have drunk something of stupidity and ignorance. I can' t tell which at this point. All of this supposed battling of Apple and PC's and talking about another company out selling Apple's iPhone is a ridiculous article. Who cares? Those of us who simply LIKE the products Apple offers and refuse to use those products which are for the simple or stupid is a very rational and intelligent decision based on nothing else but being educated in the field of electronics. Yes, I am an Apple user because I am an electronics engineer who has studied such devices for years and I know how they all work. I have also educated myself on the companies who sell us consumers and base my decisions on that as well. Yes the Galaxy product is a decent one for those who like a giant handheld in their pocket or on their hip. It still fails in comparison when it comes to the OS or the actual hardware. So please, Stop writing ridiculous articles on stupid crap like this. Just like every other article or report from CNN. Completely useless!

    January 8, 2012 at 4:52 pm |
  91. Copycat my a..

    To the ones that accuse Samsung of copycat, better you get the head out of the sand before you suffocate. Samsung phones, specially like the mentioned in this article or the equivalent Focus S are unbelivably thin, light, with great battery life, and harware stability, no mention the OLED screens that give you contrast and colors like almost ink on paper. I agree you can't compare the iPhone next to it, an iPhone 4 looks so old and bulky that is like comparing an old 60s CRT TV, with a modern flat panel display. You may say that the Android OS is a copy (or a evolution) of the iPhone , same than the iPhone is a copy from other earlier phones as the early Windows that was too complicated for the average consummer. However the Focus S uses the new Windows Mango OS, better, more innovative, and even easier to use than the Apple. Get your head out of sand, and you will see!

    January 8, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
  92. Roger Ogilvy Thornhill

    I have an iPhone 4. Got my wife upgraded to iPhone 4S at Xmas. It's a minor upgrade, except for Siri. Siri is one of those things which seems cool, but I end up not using. Also, Steve Jobs died and history says Apple will go downhill when the visionary Jobs is not there. Also, Amazon and Google both are run by their original visionaries. This does not bode well for Apple. But, while Samsung makes great displays, their customer service is awful. For this reason alone I will not buy anything with the Samsung name. It's too early, but we'll definitely know within 2 years if Apple is on the way out.

    January 8, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
  93. Sampras

    I had a iphone before, but when it was time for upgrade I went with Samsung galaxy skyrocket. There are some features in this phone which are better than iphone. I like iphone,when it is time for Apple to make some serious design change , price and policy to compete with Android phones.

    January 8, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  94. To Michael

    Michael, if you were real EE, you likely wouldn't use Apple. I am really a EE, in fact a real MSEE doing design work and you simply don't have the tools for our daily profession in the Apple World, thanks Force of the Universe! Also, you should know that Apple shrinks your IQ needed in our job. Perhaps you may have EE degree, but never understood the cool stuff. You may be working as a sales, marketing, or even managing, but not a real EE.

    January 8, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  95. Anon

    I'd say juding by all these comments, Quest's real point of this article hit the nail on the head - it got people to comment and that is what drives marketing, journalism, sales, in short the world these days.

    January 8, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
  96. Tom

    "...suddenly your coolness looks like your parents disco-dancing in the village hall under florescent lights."

    That's cool.

    January 8, 2012 at 9:03 pm |
  97. Apple Inc, baby!

    @cyberbeing Well actually, I do. Like I said, as soon as get home I'm on my iMac. I love it. And, CNN is the homepage and that's where I read what's going on in the world and what people have to say. I love Apple, no other competing companies. Apple is BEAST. Others disagree, but this 12 year old girl loves Apple. And no, I'm not a creepy weirdo who spends life at home doing absolutely nothing, I am a real 12 year old girl. Maybe some people disagree that who cares what a 12 year old has to say, especially a girl. We have our opinions too, you know. Yes, there are really immature 12 year olds but I am not one of them. I like to be heard and voice my own opinions.

    January 8, 2012 at 9:41 pm |
  98. RL

    .,the sad part of this jails that samsung may win the sales battle, but without the innovation of apple or open source, companies like Samsung and micrsoft would not hav anything to copy or improve on. I have both Mac and a Linux and find that works fine for me. The Samsung galaxy wins the sales game.

    January 8, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
  99. Damien

    "I tell you this in advance because there is nothing more polarizing that the subject of Apple versus the rest of the world.", congratulations you've done your part to continue this polarization by that statement alone

    January 8, 2012 at 10:35 pm |
  100. Mr J

    Weird premise – that 'being cool' is relevant to anything.

    My business runs on Apple iMacs, iPads, iPhones and that's fine – but I really do not spend money on 'cool'.

    Fact is, Apple supplies equipment that does the job at least as well, and mostly better, than the opposition.

    January 8, 2012 at 11:14 pm |
  101. Wayland

    I'm an Android person. I have my second Android based phone and an Android based tablet. My wife has an Ipod, Iphone, Ipad, and an Ipad2. I like using all of them and each platform has it's strengths and weaknesses. There have many reports for years that Apple's business model is flawed and will not work. I believe Apple has displayed that some people don't know what they are talking about. I'm not a fanboy/hater of either, I like both platforms. Apple gadgets flow smoothly and are restricted, Android gadgets flow a little less as smooth and are a lot less restricted. It's a toss up at best, but I don't think Apple is in any trouble.

    January 9, 2012 at 2:48 am |
  102. Joe

    Stefan, I don't know what you mean that apple computers don't offer what your demands are...my entire company is run off Mac systems and we have not run into any issue regarding compatibility or comparable and usually better alternatives for apple. Seems to me you just haven't tried out an apple computer.

    January 9, 2012 at 2:57 am |
  103. Kat

    @Apple Inc, Baby!

    I'm 13 and a girl, so hello from the same age range! I'm not an apple fan. It's because they're very hard to personalize (and I can't try learning how to code on them, I'm NOT good at all). I was at school with my laptop (Windows 7 :D) working on my science fair project and I was changing the sounds and window color. Some of my friends who are apple fans came over and were surpised at how much stuff I was changing. So, either they just didn't know how to do the equivalent things on a mac (I tried to on one of the macs at school and couldn't figure out how to), or you just can't.

    Have you tried a computer with Windows? Anything without an iOS? (Random note: My homepage is "about:blank"; it gives me a few extra seconds to think about what I need to do.)

    January 9, 2012 at 3:47 am |
  104. jep

    i would have to admit i'm an apple person. but if I was younger, had more time for myself, I may have chosen an android phone. i just used to love tinkering a lot, even back when i was a pc user.

    now the free time i saved from not having to root my phone and customize it to my tastes, or not having to reinstall windows after 6 months, etc etc, are now used to enjoy my time with my family.

    i think that's what matters most. at the end of the day, these are just tools. the best tools are the ones that saves you time for what really matters most.

    January 9, 2012 at 4:11 am |
  105. Erocks

    I have been an Apple user for over 20 years. Apple current problem is not coolness. its price and control

    I have an ipad which is good. Made better when i jailbroke it. Now I can buy a Samsung tablet (No jailbreak required, 4g and with Flash) for a few hundred dollars less then the current ipad equivalent.

    I never bought an iPhone because of the ridiculously priced plans. I have a Motorola Triumph running android that I pay 45 dollars a month unlimited everything.

    I just built a Hackintosh for under 800 dollars thats faster then Apples 4000+ configured Mac Pro.

    In this time of financial hardship people are looking for the best bang for their buck. Apple dosen't get that..

    January 9, 2012 at 4:49 am |
  106. MI

    If androids are so much better, then how come all of them are trying to be like apple? Doesnt the samsung interface look very much like apple? . I currently have the samsung but im switching to apple. The samsung constantly freezes, and when I open my e mail , all i get is a blank screen and then have to reboot the phone.

    January 9, 2012 at 6:28 am |
  107. Imran

    Samsung and Google are copy cats. They steal ideas and make products that lack originality. Whatever samsung do, they can not come close to Apple's design. Android is a complicated platform full of applications that steal your personal data.

    January 9, 2012 at 9:59 am |
  108. HaHa

    Ive been interested in this article from being its here. I nearly read all the comments in here. But just one thing that I can't really understand is that "copy cats". ^^.. What's copy cats? It's a sort of clone, right? How could you copy cat? When Samsung makes copy cats, I'm sure that must be a wounderful story!

    January 9, 2012 at 10:31 am |
  109. TC in UK

    I'm a gadget addict. I like to have the latest, fastest, thinnest, etc. Last Spring when my contract renewed I got the Galaxy S2 because it was the best phone on the market. To be specific: compared to the 4 (and now the 4S) the S2 is faster, thinner, lighter, bigger/better screen,can take memory cards, etc... and then Samsung released the D8000 TV which is made to work with the S2, so I bought that as well. Heaven on tech earth! Apple tech does not touch these two.

    I was mightily relieved when the 4S was released because it did not catch up, much far less exceed, the S2. Likely I'll get an S3 when it is released, unless something more attractive is released in the mean time. "Apple simply better"...people, are you having a laugh?

    January 9, 2012 at 10:36 am |
  110. mark

    Comments about apple being copied are rubbish. Use that analogy, and no one else have made a Mobile Phone with buttons because motorola developed it. Total nonsense. Apple have spouted the rubbish for years that they also developed Windows, they didn't Xerox did with their WIMP technology in the 60s, do some research. They didn't develop the Tablet either, these have been around for over 10 years. Apple have merely improve on an earlier platforms of technology and then try and claim them as their own unique designs and sue others to try and stop them from improving on them. Apple haven't got it. Windows and PC's succeeded in world domination only because they were inclusive with other manufacturers. Whereby apple have used a proprietry model and by excluding other manufacturers try to be all things, which historically hasn't worked and won't work in the future. History is long with such failure. by companies that try to make proprietory platforms that exclude other manufacturers, ie. IBM with Microchannel which died.
    My prediction in 2-3 years Apple will become again, an also ran, and new technologies will supercede tablets and Smartphones.

    January 9, 2012 at 10:59 am |
  111. MG

    No way Apple is loosing its status it is more than way COOL still, even after Steve Jobs passed away!

    January 9, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
  112. ced

    the problem lies in simple economics. we have over 1.5 billion people in the world that live on less then two dollars a day. iphone has made smartphones mainstream but fails to deliver value to people that aren't as rich as people in the developed world are. It is thus no suprise that the market has become saturated. Marketing only gets you so far (mainly in america and europe) but then reality steps in and you see that value for money proposition that iphone delivers just isnt there i.e. look up Apple's success in the indian market.

    January 9, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
  113. Dan

    Apple products are great. They're simple, sturdy and great for people who don't have computer technology degrees.
    My problems with them are their lack of expandability, oversimplicity and above all else the price. I understand that statistically my PC is likely to die earlier than an equivalent Mac (this is mitigated by the fact that I take good care of it and know how to avoid viruses, malware, etc) but at the end of the day if my PC does die, I can generally resurrect it with a hundred dollars or so of equipment and an hour or two of my time. The parts for Mac computers are difficult if not impossible to acquire and even more difficult to install in the case of iMacs.

    I've never used an android phone but I have an iPhone (it came free with my switchover to AT&T which is the only way I could afford it) and I have few complaints, but in general to me Mac products are overpriced and too much of a hassle to repair. You almost have to work for Apple to afford a Mac, and I like being able to break into and customize my machines easily.

    January 9, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
  114. DJR

    @Stefan …

    You wrote: "the things i demand in a computer is something that apple does not offer."

    I guess that doesn't include a grammar checker.

    January 9, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
  115. Jason

    People keep calling Samsung a copycat when they don't realize that Samsung also has another line of smartphones which is nothing like the iPhone at all.

    January 9, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
  116. anon28737

    looks like they wont approve any comment that is critical of apple
    no surprise there

    January 9, 2012 at 6:28 pm |
  117. E

    I'd like to suggest an interesting experiment with this article (and any other Apple vs. Android article).

    Once comments are closed, tally the unique (i.e., not the same poster) comments for/ defending Apple and those for/ defending Android. Ignore or separate out the rest (like this one)

    If the percentage for each comes out roughly equal by statistics, then the article did its jobs attracting controversy. If the percentage comes out in favor for one over the other, the result tells you at least 1) the nature of the population of readers or 2) which camp has greater fanaticism for defending their brand.

    I suspect the latter case. And if true, that camp needs a serious reality check.

    January 9, 2012 at 7:07 pm |
  118. ladybear

    We are mac users as they are best for our visual arts business, and also because of ease of use. We find it very strange that people are concerned with a 'cool' factor, which has nothing to do with reliability, versatility, and quality. Our mac computers are 5 and 7 years old, our iphone and ipod are all first generation and all are still in perfect working order, and do everything we require of these tools.. As we know who we are, we do not have to spend money on new gadgets to appear 'cool', which seems a massive sign of insecurity. You are who you are because of how you conduct yourself, not because of the tools you use. ( same applies to autos)

    January 9, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
  119. alexander

    Indeed m so keen on style but the iphone looks so flat without art, also looks so metalic and bulky: but i know apple can make a slim design thats cool too. Samsung has sold more because of price difference also.

    January 9, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
  120. Harpcat

    You guys just don;t get it. A SINGLE PHONE beat out the Iphone. Not the Android platform. If you add the sales of all Android phones the numbers would be astronomical. they are talking about only one of the 100 or more phones available for the platform. That is a very big deal. You can minimize it all you want. But this is noteworthy.

    January 9, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
  121. Clayton

    Hopefully. It's just a brand name and the iphone is sub par compared to the better phones already out when an iphone launches lol.

    January 9, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
  122. Android_man

    I have to laugh. Someone posted about a Hyundai vs. a BMW inferring that the Apple is the BMW. Well, you are right, they are. What cars do I see broken down on the side of the freeway?...the $50,000 BMW's.

    Since Apple keeps a choke hold their technology, they control everything. They own the ball and the ballpark, why wouldn't they make the rules.

    Lucky that we have Androids so those who don't want to play by those rules can find their own ballpark and have a game with no rules (custom roms). We are able to customize the phone to a true USER experience instead of APPLE telling us what a user EXPERIENCE should consist of.

    As far as APPS go?.....yes, APPLE has some cool apps that the Android doesn't have or not in the working order that the apple ones do, but I have found every APP i need to help me in life.

    January 9, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
  123. Laisee-Faire in Lake City

    I love the Apple products I've owned and wish I could own a few more. I've owned an original iPod and a second generation iPod Touch, I've owned an eMac and an iMac but have yet to purchase an iPad. Reason being, I love my HTC. I've since sold my Macs and MP3's and have moved to Zune and a custom built PC. I enjoy using Mac for my graphic design and video editing projects but for the majority of what I do at home, a PC is fine for me and was cheaper to build :) If I didn't just check my email, watch Hulu and use my e-Comic subsciption to fuel my Geek, then I would probably purchase an iMac. If I cared that my Zune didn't have apps, I'd probably purchase an iPod Touch, and if I didn't love Android 3.0, then I'd probably purchase an iPad.
    Too many probably's for me to go all out Apple.
    Good company, fantastic customer service and very innovative, just not for my home :)
    Rest Well, Steve Jobs

    January 9, 2012 at 9:44 pm |
  124. John Kantor

    Neither the Journalists or Samsung has a clue. You aren't "cool" because of specs. And 4g isn't ready for business yet. As for being "new", the smartphone is a mature product now. There aren't going to be any more game changing developments. What will get and – most importantly keep – people is style and quality – and no one competes with Apple on either of those.

    January 9, 2012 at 10:50 pm |
  125. Arthur Streatfield

    I am a switcher from Windows to IMac. I plan to switch right back as soon as I feel I can justify the cost. I feel that what Apple are really good at is marketing and control – ensuring that if the customer wants to do many of the things that are available either cheaply or through shareware for Windows PCs – they have to pay through the nose. My wife wants an IPad and I am trying to dissuade her – I cant understand why anyone would want a device with nothing in the way of connecting ports. For heavens sake – you even have to buy an adapter to plug in a camera.

    January 9, 2012 at 11:17 pm |
  126. Uncle Musty

    I have used Apple's products, but I won't buy any. I have yet to be given a reasonable answer as to why I should over pay for a tech item that will only let me do what the company wants me to do. itunes, blah, blah...

    January 9, 2012 at 11:57 pm |
  127. Mark McKee

    Richard, dear Richard, you've broken one of the great unspoken laws of mainstream technology jounalism. You don't write about technology in mainstream media without being a Mac. The reason people believe Jobs was an innovator, instead of a reincarnation of P.T. Barnum or the Rev. Jim Jones, is because 99% of the people who write for the mainstream media are Macs, while 99% of the readers are PCs. It all works, like Wall Street and money, because of our collective belief in an abstract idea that can't survive rational scrutiny. You are blowing it, Richard Quest! Why do you hate America...so much?

    January 10, 2012 at 12:38 am |
  128. Marianne Atkins

    Seriously - Apple vs. Android issues completely aside for just a moment – I have to say, this is a terrible article that's clearly only intended to provoke:
    "Apple users believe they have seen the light and are messianic about the company. Everyone else thinks the Appleites have drunk the Kool-Aid, probably need therapy.... [etc.]"
    Really? That's what we all think? Thanks for letting us know...
    Even more transparent: "By now Appleites are frothing and ready to hit their MacBook Air keys to put me down. Well go ahead..."
    Here's the honest translation: "Oh, no... whatever you do, don't throw me in the briar patch of angry commentary that I can use to demonstrate to my CNN Masters how provocative and edgy I am!"

    January 10, 2012 at 12:47 am |
  129. David Swans

    I just read Steve Jobs Book, it took me 4 days to propererly read which is a personal record for something as large as that he stated that it is nothing wrong with stealing ideas (Xerox) , yet later in the book he critsised people for dowlowding pirated music? and called it stealing!

    January 10, 2012 at 2:15 am |
  130. John

    I've had my 4s since Sept... I like it overall but typing on this thing completely sucks and is kind of making me regret not getting the larger Galaxy S2.

    January 10, 2012 at 5:42 am |
  131. JT

    One platform will only allow installation of pre-approved programs. One will let you install anything without acting as a gatekeeper.

    I'm an adult, far beyond the age where I need to ask permission to do something with my own phone. The iphone is fine for children, and for people whose technological needs from a device are less important than their image/fashion needs. Adults, meanwhile, will look elsewhere for their phones.

    January 10, 2012 at 6:40 am |
  132. JulianCA

    Apple doesn't stay on top of cool by continuing to make the same things - they invent entirely fresh takes on old ideas. Of course the iPhone isn't cool anymore! That's why they came out with the iPad. Tablets won't be cool after next year when everyone will have one. Basically if you look at the pattern: Apple took PCs and made them sleek and user-optimized, they took portable music and made them sleek and user-optimized, they took cell phones and made them sleek and user-optimized, they took tablet computers and made them sleek and user-optimized. We're actually at the point where Apple (at least under Steve Jobs) would be coming out with something new - maybe Apple TV revisited, or maybe reinventing gaming, or automotive entertainment, or maybe another generation of cloud capability. That's what cool is - just when everyone catches up, they've moved on. By the way, I actually don't like Apple products personally - but I'm not such a Windows fanboi that I don't understand their appeal or the effectiveness of their strategy.

    January 10, 2012 at 6:49 am |
  133. Bert

    @JT
    That's absolutely true.... The Apple's idea of controlling, tracking your every move and application is sick. You cannot change your default browser, you cannot install programs (only download approved apps from store).....
    And one thing more... For iPhones are for people scared of technology and thinking: "don't touch it or it will break" that's why you cannot do a variety of thing on the iPhone. Futhermore unless they implement BASIC functions as 4G internet speeds, wireless payments via NFC and so ... for me they don't stand a change. Why bother paying so much money for a phone lacking style, design and basic functions.... I'd prefer Galaxy S2 or Motorola Razor.

    January 10, 2012 at 8:28 am |
  134. heebiejeebie

    i do not listen to music, so i do not need ipod. if no have ipod, so no need a mac to connnect to ipod. i have coworker who do nothing all day except scroll around on ipad. i never see him actually produce work. he ask, oh? can PC do this? i say yes PC can. He say oh? can PC do that? i say yes PC can. he amaze and shut the mouth. i have no virus problem, and do not need the apple eye candy. my computer very cheap and reliable. I outwork the mac zombie who always listen to an itune.

    January 10, 2012 at 10:53 am |
  135. lee

    WOW! This shows just how stupid you really are.

    They were giving the things away or selling them for 1 penny.

    I got my wife and her mother one and they brought them back to me 6 days later and told me they wanted their old phones back. " These dang things are Haunted." were their exact words.

    Now lets do a real comparison.

    Direct news: More than 640,000 tablets were given as Christmas presents in 2011, with 72 per cent of these Apple iPads.

    January 10, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
  136. Applesauce

    Fails to mention that the Galaxy is basically a clone of apple's design. The main page layout, the touch screen with the button on the bottom of the face, even the font for the clock. Just something to remember.. Apple has been and still is the innovator that everyone else follows.

    January 10, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
  137. JimmyJams

    Personally, Apple lost it's cool factor for me the minute they started airing those commercials with the hipster guy telling me they were cool.

    January 10, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
  138. Macuser

    I'm an Apple shareholder but I don't own every thing Apple and don't feel I need to. Some products, like my Palm, met my needs more and better than anything currently out on the market. I love my Mac. I just wish HP would bring back the Palm.

    January 10, 2012 at 4:49 pm |
  139. cinemkr

    Samsung's smartphone victory is not because Apple is losing it's cool. It simple economics.

    Apple innovates and others copy. Apple invented the first touch screen phone. And now, 5 years late,r Samsung has taken the lead in sales. Why? Because - like all copies of Apple innovations - they sell them cheaper. But this fact is reflected in their quality.

    Steve Jobs never set out to make the number one selling computer/phone/laptop/tablet. Apple strives for number one in innovations and quality. To that end they have succeeded. And you pay good money for that.

    January 10, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
  140. Skyrocket

    My opinion of Apple is this: I hate Apple. The brand defines Kool-Aid thanks to all of its little apostles running around with their Starbucks latte's blabbing on their phones or comparing their 4S' with one another. Anyone that only uses Apple products should have their head examined by a neurosurgeon in Vienna. The iPhone has a lot of wasted space which accounts for the screen size being too small, and it is too heavy.

    I bought the Galaxy S2 when it was released and then traded it in for the Galaxy S2 Skyrocket a month later when it was released. The Galaxy S2 phones are so much better than anything iPhone! The only thing iPhone has that is better over my Skyrocket is a higher screen resolution and greater internal memory options.

    January 10, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
  141. Manun

    Love the way Apple fanboys react whenever anything negative is written about the beloved products, their lives would be so empty when the cool factor fades away. Anyway they have to keep upgrading to overpriced new versions every year to remain 'cool' .

    January 10, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
  142. who actually cares

    guys its just a phone,
    who cares about the sales of a single phone,
    just get whatever phone you want and move on

    January 10, 2012 at 6:25 pm |
  143. ExIPhoneLover

    Sorry, Apple did not invent the touch screen devices, gestures, or the slim devices. They were the first ones to come up with a commercial product offering a slim form of a touch screen device. Touch screen devices, gestures, and slim form factors have been in the industry for decades, and before those devices, there were shown in all kind of movies.

    Look at Palm, the iphone looks like a slim factor of the palm. The only thing they added was a touch screen instead of the stylus based screen. If HP would have added a touch screen to the palm, phone capabilities, and a nice screen, then the iphone would never had existed. Many Palm users dreamed of a touch screen Palm with a emmbeded phone and even slimmer. HP was short sighted while Apple saw the opportunity to make it happen.

    I still have my 1996 Palm on my desk drawer after more than 15 years. Look at the link below, the iphone looks like a Palm with an embbeded phone, a color screen, and with a touch screen instead of a stylus based screen. They were many other similar devices, with color screen and network capabilities.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_(PDA)

    It will be as saying Apple invented the touch screen TV, because they were the first ones to release a TV with a touch screen. Putting one or more existing technologies into a device does not mean they invented the technologies. It just means Apple came up with the device first since it made sense to put them together, and if they wouldn't have, some other company would have come up with it since the materials for it because common and cheaply produced.

    January 10, 2012 at 6:54 pm |
  144. skytag

    I wonder if the Apple haters ever give any serious thought to what the consumer tech world would be like without Apple. Who would companies like Microsoft and Samsung be copying? People can talk all day about how Apple didn't invent this technology or wasn't the first company to use that technology, but at the end of the day it's been Apple driving the innovations embraced by the masses.

    That's why thees kinds of articles are always talking about other companies catching up with Apple and never the other way around.

    January 10, 2012 at 7:09 pm |
  145. nubes

    Apple will go to sh** now that Jobs is gone...they would already have been bankrupt and out of business if he didnt come back to save them. I'm sure they will head back into that direction now he is gone??

    January 10, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
  146. GiveMeABreak

    I bought an HTC 3D, so I guess I'm a weirdo.

    That said, I use to have an iPhone, and now I have an Android. I'll never go back, I enjoy the freedom too much.

    Apple isn't Ferrari people, they're Fisher Price.

    January 10, 2012 at 9:54 pm |
  147. Orion

    I have owned Apple products for years - I have owned 3 iphones and recently bought the Samsung Galaxy Nexus with the pure Google OS because I was sick and tired of Apple locking everything down. Having used the Nexus for almost 2 weeks now I can't believe I loved the iPhone so much. The sheer brilliance of the Google OS is mind blowing and I love the fact I can side load and root with almost no effort. Both of those actions would send Apple execs into a cold sweat because they can only function by controlling their "Stepford Wife" hordes via perceived exclusivity.

    Sorry Apple I bought the Google Nexus phone because I was sick of the same old thing every single year. The same look and feel, the same tight reins on customization and the inability to export and use all of the thousands of dollars worth of music I own. Never again . . .

    January 10, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
  148. N49

    If it works for you, then it's cool.

    January 11, 2012 at 2:37 am |
  149. Jon

    @ Steve? Asian thieves? Then what about the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. It has a unique design and look and a really nice phone to boot.

    January 11, 2012 at 2:38 am |
  150. Hopeykat

    Who cares? The butterfly breaks the wheel.

    January 11, 2012 at 2:51 am |
  151. Apple/PC nihilist.

    meh. they're all 'okay.' they're machines. the coolness factor is as subjective as those who think official Carhartt clothing is more style than Abercrombie. it just doesn't matter folks.

    January 11, 2012 at 6:03 am |
  152. Brett

    And Fiat sells more units than Ferrari. What conclusion is it that we're supposed to draw here? I don't think it has one thing to do with coolness, but everything to do with $$$. You get what you pay for.

    January 11, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
  153. macstone

    Coolness factor is not why people buy apple products. I own apple products because they actually just work especially their notebooks. OS X is a fine operating system and as a Unix administrator I find OS X to be very powerful and the things I can do on a mac I can never do with windows. As for the iPhone, many buyers are holding back and waiting for the next generation iPhone 5 especially if they already own an iPhone 4. Although I was tempted many times to buy an Android based phone, every time I put my hands on one I find myself disappointed for one reason or another. I'm not a big Apple fan but I choose to buy apple products because, like I mentioned before, they just work. I own PCs, a Blackberry, an iPhone and few Linux powered machines. I never bought an iPad because I really do see the point in having one, it's too big to be ultra portable and I prefer to use a smart phone over an iPad any day.

    Also we all need to remember that we should support American companies, especially creative ones, and avoid helping other nations overtake our dominance in the technology market. I understand that everything is made in China but still, apple is an american company and if the government would offer American corporations real tax breaks and offer VISAs to creative engineers from all over the world you will see America the way America should be.

    January 11, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
  154. Max

    Apple innovates? Hahahahahahaha-ha ha ha ha.

    That was a good laugh.

    Why don't you see whats really under the hood of all those Apple products.

    They simply hijack other people's work and call it their own. Then when a rival comes up they sue the crap out of them. So much for innovating.

    January 11, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
  155. Max

    Also, forgot to put this in my earlier post.

    All I've ever seen out of Apple products is eye candy. Not functionality. They are very good at polishing a turd.

    January 11, 2012 at 2:03 pm |
  156. Yhate

    As someone that works with both platforms, daily, both systems have their benefits. The user/buyer should be concerned about does the system meet their need, not the coolness factor. They are tools, not bling. The perception of cool is just another way for people to self promote themselves through a tool It does what it does, and it does not make anyone better than anyone else. Enjoy your toys and stop being a snob about plastic cases and circuit boards.

    January 11, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
  157. Tigress

    You know, I will fully admit I get sick of Apple haters who assume that for some reason I'm using my computer to look cool.

    Um, no, I like my computer. It really is as simple as that. Honestly, I don't understand why people care so much what I like, I like it, so I use it. You like WIndows, great, I don't. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't use it. Just means I shouldn't.

    BTW, I liked macs way before they were "cool". In fact, all through college I just got flak for liking macs. It took me a long time to acknowledge that Apple is some how cool (I still don't see it honestly) cause I always got the impression it was considered a mark of some one who didn't like computers (not true for me) or was computer illiterate.

    Anyways, I keep hearing how supposedly apple fans are obnoxious so how come I meet a lot more obnoxious windows and android fans who won't leave me alone about my computer choice?

    January 11, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
  158. BSD Guy

    God, what hilarious comments. The Apple nuts will defend their choice without any effort to research what they are saying. THIS is why I hate most Apple users...they are technically & historically uneducated and love to run around spewing whatever silliness Apple's marketing department feeds to them that week.

    Oh! Apple created the GUI! – (no, that was Xerox)

    Wait, Apple created the touchscreen phone! – (nope, that was IBM in the 90's)

    But, but...Apple created the tablet- (theoretically, but you MUST count the newton as that, not the iPad)

    So what does that leave us suddenly? "They just work better". Yes, thank you for that well-framed argument.

    For the record, I have two Apple laptops, 3 FreeBSD workstations and a Windows XP system here, not to mention countless Linuxen installed for various friends and family. Oddly, the two Macs have the biggest problems out of the bunch.

    And no, I am not a "Windows" person. I keep the one system around for testing things natively. Truthfully, the only ones really worth a damn are the BSD boxes, with the Linuxes coming in a close second.

    Also, I better not hear any uneducated replies about "Mac is BSD". BSD systems allow me to use the full power of my system in any way I please, including changing out large sections of operational code to fit my needs. With Apple, I damned well had better use something "pre-approved", since obviously I am unable as a consumer to make my own decisions. Aside from some common base technology, one is a REAL system and one is a toy for those who refuse to learn how to use a computer properly. One is truly "free" (as in NO restrictions) and one is extraordinarily limited.

    So have at it...I will continue to laugh at the uneducated replies posted here. From both sides, actually, though the Windows users don't seem to be nearly as obsessed. I guess the only real explanation is that Windows users don't gauge their personal value based on a toy like Mac users do. Truly sad!

    January 11, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
  159. Capercorn

    Why Apple will continue to suck:

    1) Microsoft has DirectX
    2) GNU/Linux has OpenGL/OpenAL (natively)
    3) Apple has no graphics library.

    This forces developers to either rely on third party solutions, such as OpenGL ports. However, OpenGL isn't maintained by a company one can go complain to; it's run by the FLOSS community.

    Developers will always flock to the platforms that are easiest to develop on, and that means Microsoft or Linux.

    Why Linux you ask? It has all the bells and whistles that developers like, and it's open source. Furthermore, it's development is now highly financed by industry giants Oracle and Google.

    Apple has hipsters. Do the math.

    January 11, 2012 at 6:21 pm |
  160. Freeman

    I own a Macbook pro and run windows and MacOS both on it. I like MAcbook but it is somewhat stupidly differentiated from PC in one sense. For example, i installed windows operating system which asked me to hit "CTRL+ALT+DEL" , I was not able to untill i attach a pc keyboard to my mac. there are diff options mentioned on the internet to try but none work. I dont what Apple get by limiting simple keys on MAC keyboard which in return give trouble to end users. it is beyond my understanding

    January 11, 2012 at 6:30 pm |
  161. mike from iowa

    Apple is like religion. You either love it with all your heart, or you don't care about it. If you don't care about it, then the worshippers assume you hate it and regard you as a heretic. I first chose not to use Apple in 1979 when I selected a TRS-80 Model I over an Apple2i. I am glad I never drank the Apple KoolAid because I have nothing but contempt for religion, and more seriously because I don't like having dumbed-down products that remove choices and options in order to lock me in to their royalties. Plus they censor their App Market, something that Android does not do.

    January 11, 2012 at 6:31 pm |
  162. Greg

    I used to be an Apple fan, snubbing my nose at all things that were not Apple. Then I discovered the hard way that there is really nothing special about their hardware and that my iMac was nothing more than an overpriced PC and was susceptible to the same problems.

    January 11, 2012 at 8:02 pm |
  163. Ralph Dtex

    How sad cnn was a news agency, now it finds that need to blow hot air to start flame wars to get clicks. Sad, perhaps I need to switch to yahoo news. I think they get more hits that cnn.... ; )

    January 12, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
  164. AVRAAM JACK

    HA.

    Better sell that Apple stock then.

    Personally, I think Apple is still ramping up.

    Android was Schmidt's stab in the back to Apple. It is treachery in a box. It is also Linux, which is a hack.

    I have gone from all PC to all Apple without any intention to. It just happened.

    I like that Apple was able to do what nobody said would ever happen and nobody noticed – which was to put UNIX on the desktop. I like UNIX so it is a perfect fit for me.

    January 12, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
  165. AVRAAM JACK

    Slow news day – lets get the APPLE vs otherstuff fight going

    January 12, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
  166. Dean

    Instead of talking about Apple's "cool" factor talk to some tech repair people. I used to be one and my brother currently is. I have used Apple products for about 20 years now. Every single Apple device I have bought (iPod's and Macs) was still in operation when I handed them down to family and friends. I have NEVER had a computer crash on me. I have NEVER had to replace a hard drive. I have NEVER had a virus infect my computer (and for many years I used no virus protection). What is the number one reason that tech repair people like Windows, PCs, and other non-Apple products? BECAUSE THEY KEEP THEM EMPLOYED!

    January 12, 2012 at 4:17 pm |
  167. Jon

    So I see multiple people calling the iphone the BMW of phones... So then why is my 2 year old DroidX faster than the new iphone? I guess that makes my phone a Lambo. Ignorant apple fanboy/hipsters...

    January 12, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
  168. Jon

    @skytag like the facial recognition pattent apple put in for AFTER the G-nex hit the market? Right, and the android community went back in time to streal that? Apple is a joke. The recent slew of BS patent suits is evidence of that.

    January 12, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
  169. Barbara

    Love my new iPhone 4s, I'm completely convinced Apple puts out way more superior products.

    January 12, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
  170. ExIPhoneLover

    This last weekend, a family member gave us around 10 GB of family photos in a micro SD card, as a gift. I installed it on my Samsung S2 phone and was displaying them smoothly on my 60" LED TV. My battery ran low, so I pop in a new one, and back to the photo slide show for a couple more hours.

    My nephew drop my phone a couple of times and my S2 screen did not break at all. I don't even use a case for it, because it is a lot lighter and it's design does not break as easily as the iphone design.

    Sorry, but I don't missed any of my iphones at all... Even though I still have them and still have my ipad...

    January 12, 2012 at 6:54 pm |
  171. Kyle

    Wife has an iPhone4 and seems like a good piece of equipment but from a business perspective the Android business model highlights again why PC computing became more ubiquitous than Apple in the late 80s and 90s. Apple will decline sooner or later and eventually I imagine they will innovate and rise to the top again someday. These things happen. Move along.

    January 13, 2012 at 12:02 am |
  172. apple

    haha... i don't own an iPhone nor any Samsong phone model =) I am still using my n73 to communicate. And i use the old N95 for taking picutes hehe... so!

    January 13, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
  173. apple

    My niece, my nephew, my sister, and my brother-in-law each has an iPhone. They have the latest. Good for them. I'm fine with that. But I am not envious.

    January 13, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
  174. apple

    BTW. My bf has been a Mac book pro user ever since i can remember. And who said it doesn't crash! He had restarted for several times! No glitch? My foot! haha

    January 13, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
  175. apple

    And when you use Mac for YM you can't use video call!

    January 13, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
  176. apple

    BTW... I'm really called apple... so i don't hate my namesake...

    January 13, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
  177. B-BoY

    Apple is over-hyped and over-priced for what you get.

    January 13, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
  178. iRebel

    I don't really feel like paying double for something when my Asus PC processer's is twice as fast. It costs around $700 dollars vs. a MacBook that starts around $1400.

    January 13, 2012 at 6:41 pm |
  179. Cameron

    I don't understand the vehement apple love/hate debate. I grew up using both Macs and PCs and both work just fine, although I now use a PC. I enjoy my iPhone, and have gotten great use out of iPods. To me the differences are minor and mostly aesthetic because I don't care so much about either looking cool or doing obscure power-computing-type timewasting stuff. Both Apple fanboys and haters are silly.

    January 13, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
  180. Skeeve

    Umm... Apple ever had a cool factor? Shallow factor may be. The last Apple product that indeed had cool factor was not made by Apple, it was made by Next. For now, with a notable exception of iPhone most Apple products remain overpriced toys with limited functionality.

    January 14, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
  181. Ryan

    Apple truly is overhyped, they're greedy, they're totalitarian, they're domineering, they are thieves, but they make absolutely fantastic and stylistic products that do work...the vast majority of the time. Yes, my iPhone has frozen...but it's extremely rare. I was completely blown away by how cool my Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket was and how easy it was to customize and use, how the functionality inherent to it completely blew away my restrictive one-size-fits-all iPhone 4S, how I felt I could really do whatever the hell I wanted. But ultimately, it froze and could not recover. And I was blown away. So I went back to my iPhone. Siri on the iPhone is in MANY ways inferior to SpeakToIt Assistant on the Skyrocket. Email is inferior to the Skyrocket. App control is inferior to the Skyrocket. Speed is inferior to the Skyrocket. Keyboard is inferior to Swype on the Skyrocket. RAM is inferior to the Skyrocket. Folder organization and app capacity is inferior to the Skyrocket. Voice to text is inferior to the Skyrocket. Wifi is inferior to the Skyrocket. And lastly, screen size is inferior to the Skyrocket. That's just a short list. But there are a LOT of pro's for the iPhone, and when my Skyrocket froze and wouldn't recover (even though it was brand new), I was forced to go back to my iPhone. Not that was I was hugely disappointed because it's such a good product, but the iPhone is no longer the innovator, and that's undisputed. The iPhone set the pace, but it has fallen sadly behind in innumerable ways to the innovation and advancement inherent to Samsung and many other Android products, and the freedom that comes with the unrestricted and unwalled garden that is Android. William Wallace would have bought a Skyrocket for that reason alone.

    January 15, 2012 at 5:29 am |
  182. JustWorks

    Coolness factor? I could not care less. I use what works best, has fewest issues and gets the job done. I have Macs and PCs and the Macs just work much, much better and without any issues. Windows 7 is better than Vista, but still freezes up and has endless problems, so i use it much less than my Mac. I use an iPhone because the medical market is almost an iPhone/iPad monopoly. Android is not even a factor yet, and all professional apps are iPhone/iPad, so as nice as the Samsung stuff may be (and I have a great Samsung LED that is a great flatscreen), it is not even an option. Until Windows can equal the Mac in performance and reliability, and until Android gets past the amateur/home market, I will stick with what works.

    January 15, 2012 at 8:21 pm |
  183. Anti

    I'm a PC person. I own a Vaio, Blackberry, Zune, and Transformer. I've used Mac's and disliked the interface. But in all, it was the stickershock, and the fact that Apply products are not compatible with many of the other products I use. The proprietariness is also something that I can't really stomach.

    January 15, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
  184. Miles Davis

    Apple just keeps getting cooler and cooler.

    January 17, 2012 at 2:59 am |
  185. Jeff S

    Who cares about Apple's cool factor? I use my devices (most of them Apple) to enable me to do things. Cool doesn't add any benefit to the functionality of a device. I buy my devices to mee my needs not those that are standing around me.

    Also...you might want to educate yourself on the definition of PC. PC doesn't equal Microsoft or Windows.

    January 18, 2012 at 2:22 am |
  186. Murphy

    I finally broke down and bought my first Apple device; of course the brand lost the cool factor.

    January 18, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
  187. BubbaJones

    Wow! Finally the article that tells it like it is... Apple's slow decline into irrelevance is an absolute given since they are now simply making (overpriced) commodity items. It happened in 1988-1993, with the Macintosh simply not offering a compelling difference to a commodity PC, and Apple completely lost the corporate market. (yes, Macs were fairly common in offices back then!)

    Android, Win8, whatever, is actually meaningless, the point being that there is now a baseline of expected functionality that consumers want in a smartphone or tablet, and whoever provides that is actually irrelevant. Just like the millions that still happily use Win XP, once there is a plateau of useful functionality, there's really no compelling reason to purchase a newer, or more importantly, more expensive device. Just like PC sales are now, future sales with be a fight down to the bottom with razor-thin margins, all offering the same basic functionality.

    Just like XP with a modern Web browser, there's very little way forward for smartphone development that will be significantly compelling for the masses. If you can surf, e-mail, have GPS, music/video, and call someone(!), what more is actually relevant? Apps will add functionality, the baseline hardware and OS paradigms are already more than mature/capable enough.

    Putting aside the niches, price drives everything, and Apple has never been able to compete on price, particularly once the technology becomes significantly commoditized (like a smartphone).

    Not an Apple hater/lover, just a realist...

    January 18, 2012 at 6:39 pm |
  188. Geek Girl

    This article is kinda ridiculous......Apple is not Apple because of the "cool" factor.

    I'm not 12, (I'm 50) and used Microsoft Products my whole life. I got a Mac for Christmas 2 years ago, and have never turned on a Windows PC again. I used to believe all the hype and thought that Mac was overpriced. I learned my lesson well.

    It's not that Apple products are "cooler", they are just BETTER! In the entire time I have had my Mac, never once, have I had to reboot because of freezing or crashes, no registry errors, blue screens, etc.. If Windows made a better product, I would buy it, but they simply don't. Yes, I am now a Mac convert, but at 50, I could care less about cool.....I just want the damn thing to work!

    By the way, my Android phone (Droid X) is a complete piece of crap. Apps crash constantly, and when I buy my next phone, it will be an iphone.

    January 18, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
  189. bnhrd

    im a very big apple fan.. also android ( especially in HTC phones) has a lot of lawsuits regarding patent rights most of which apple has won. and i think apple is the real thing ...

    January 19, 2012 at 4:26 am |
  190. hahahahaha

    How are computers like air conditioners? Both work just fine until you open windows.

    January 19, 2012 at 6:48 am |
  191. Josh

    I am reading all these pro-Apple comments and am honestly busting up laughing! Better computers? Do a spec check and come tell me the results. Better Operating System? BAHAHA its a repackaged Linux, download Linux and throw it on a computer and you will have Mac OSX except with 1 major difference which is "it hasnt been locked down by apple so that you cant do whatever you want with it"... Cost? I am pretty sure you can see that a 2500 Apple computer that has 1/2 the power of a 1200 Windows computer is pretty bad.

    January 20, 2012 at 4:03 am |
  192. Josh

    Apple Vs Other
    Specs – Non-Apple Computers in the same price range will ALWAYS have better specs.
    OS – OSX is a very limited down version of Linux, get Linux and you get the unlocked version of OSX – YAY FREEDOM
    Cost – Apple Computers cost 2x as much as other computers with half the specs

    January 20, 2012 at 4:05 am |
  193. Waldo J

    There are chinks in the Apple armour. I'm a hard-core user but there has been annoyance after annoyance for me over the past two months. I've had to contact support more in the past 8 weeks than the previous 8 years. The support technicians have generally been good, but the grater point is that the best support tech is the one I never need to contact.

    iPhone 4S? Lame! Siri? Brutal! iCloud? Confusing and bleeding edge!

    Apple product at its worst is still better than Android/Windows at its best, but the Apple proposition has never been about "good enough" until now.

    January 20, 2012 at 5:18 am |
  194. KB from AZ

    I use APPLE products and Microsoft Products. I build my own PC's (I can't build a Mac). All this bashing one thing or the other is foolish. All the products have merit and do there job well. However the Iphone is a bit long in the tooth....It needs an update other than a pretty voice thing. (JMHO) Yep, the Korean's are the King of Rip off and Copy. But they usually do a pretty good job over time. I.E. the Galaxy 2S and so on..

    I just want to remind all the Apple lovers out there. Apple is in the middle of the largest electronics recall of all time. They have recalled ALL the 1st Generation Nano's becasue of DANGEROUS batteries. WHOOPS.

    Every company gets lucky and Apple got really Lucky, that being said the clock is ticking and they can't live off thier Iphone for ever. They need to Diversify and do this better.
    Steve Jobs said the Ipad was going to be the biggest thing to Gaming since sliced bread. I just am not seeing the great games available that where promised. I use my Ipad to search the Net or watch a few Pod casts... But Pod casts have lost their appeal for many companies and those are becoming rarer as they loose their value.

    Time marches on, inovation must be continuous and if you don't switch up your game and movee ahead you will fall behind and watch the next guy get all the accolades.

    January 20, 2012 at 7:22 pm |
  195. Chinese apple factory worker

    Let's face it. After Steve Jobs died Apple has lost its coolness. Oh my God they are selling Apple computers, Ipads, and Iphones at Walmart.... How lame is that?!!!

    January 23, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
  196. InSingapore

    I am an Apple fan and have been for six years now. iPod, a Mac mini, and a Macbook Pro with 23" HD ACD. But I chose the Samsung Galaxy s2 as my handphone. I like how Apple went to UNIX as their underlying OS and what makes UNIX and it's derivatives so great is that it's open source. I chose Android for the same reason. Both Apple proprietary and the wild west of open source has it's pluses and minuses. For now, I'll live with the fickleness of openness hoping that soon, there will be an offering that is somewhere in between closed and totally open.

    I love my Samsung S2 and synching with my Mac through Google is not such a hurdle after all. Like going from a person of faith to atheism, going to the Samsung S2 doesn't hurt. The apps partners ecosystem tied to Chrome is awesome!

    January 24, 2012 at 3:01 am |
  197. Janine

    People can think I've "drunk the cool-aid" all they want, but the fact is I've had a MacBook Pro for four years and have never had a single issue with it and my HTC Evo4g with Android bugs-out, reboots, won't download updates for no apparent reason, etc at least once a week. Yes, Apple products are more expensive, but I'm willing to shell out extra dough so I don't have to deal with repairs and issues down the line. I suppose it all comes down to what a technological headache is worth to you...I can't wait to trade in my Evo for an iPhone.

    January 24, 2012 at 7:21 pm |
  198. the_dude

    As with all things the more mainstream apple gets the less cool it will be. Hipsters dont care how many children died in the sweat shops as long as they look cool in the coffe shop with their imac and ipdo.

    January 25, 2012 at 12:54 am |
  199. Mark C

    How is this article looking in light of yesterday's earnings announcement from Apple, half-wit?

    January 26, 2012 at 9:25 am |
  200. Mark C

    "BAHAHA its a repackaged Linux"

    Actually, there is not a single byte of Linux code in it, you pathetic half-wit. Some day when you're all grown up and know the difference between Linux and Unix you can come back and comment without looking like such an imbecile mmmkay?

    January 26, 2012 at 9:28 am |
  201. Atom

    And here comes Windows 8. Touch first and ready for all devices. Bye bye Apple and their propriety and over priced lines.

    January 26, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
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    January 27, 2012 at 2:01 am |
  203. MashaSobaka

    I cannot afford Apple's stuff to begin with. I definitely cannot afford to replace everything every three years the way most Apple maniacs I've seen manage to do. My fancier-than-I-needed PC cost me maybe 1/6 of what the most basic Mac costs and works just as well (if not better). Not to mention the fact that I can't stand Apple's so-called "intuitive" framework of battling with your computer instead of just working with it. If people like their Macs then that is bloody freaking awesome and I wish them a happy two or three years with their shiny toy before it goes out of style and needs replacing. Meanwhile I will be enjoying many happy years with my extremely reliable PC.

    January 29, 2012 at 11:38 pm |
  204. Gen

    Just buy the phone you like.

    January 31, 2012 at 7:36 am |
  205. Gen

    I mean, all this talk about which company's product is better is ridiculous. People can just buy whatever phone they want to buy without wasting their breath on the argument, unless they want to force others into buying the same product and into proclaiming their undying loyalty for one company only.

    January 31, 2012 at 7:43 am |
  206. Serb

    Outside US, Apple is viewed the same way soccer is in US. Apple had it's big day, because consumers in North America were buying, but now that this market is saturated the sales will stall and decline, while Samsung and HTC will be gaining teritories...

    January 31, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
  207. BubbaJones

    Commoditization of the basic platform and hardware is what it's all about. The PC world has been there for over ten years, with "ancient" Win XP still being perfectly adequate for 99.9% of your typical consumer's needs. Your average PC buyer could care less about "brand", and is motivated by price, and maybe specs (if they actually understand them!)

    Tablets and smartphones are almost already there. The platform has been defined, and putting aside "face-lifts" al-la XP/Vista/Win7, the basic UI paradigms won't and don't need to change much.

    With smartphones & tables, Apple -will- fade back into a upper-end niche market, it is an absolute given. No-one will ever "dominate" these arenas in the long run, it will be each manufacturer fighting for a small share of the commodotized market.

    Apple may stay quite profitable, even as a niche player, but going out ten years, they will be a shadow of what they are now.

    January 31, 2012 at 6:39 pm |
  208. kimchi

    I never bought into the Cult of Apple. Other gadgets perform the same functions, if not more, usually at a cheaper price. Apple attracts people who want to appear to be cool over common sense functionality and they get off on sneering at the masses who purchase the superior products like rebellious teenagers sneering at their uncool parents that told them to stay in college and open an IRA. Well, in hindsight, that education and IRA turned out to be the smart choice. Same with Apple vs. PC. Apple is modern day snake oil. I laugh at the fools who follow Apple blindly. They try so hard to be cool, that they are not. It's hilarious.

    January 31, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
  209. Lauren

    Galaxy S II is $79.99 on Wirefly. iPhone is $199. Still wondering why it sold more? Android is the cheap/poor man's iPhone...plain and simple.

    Still wondering though, if the iPhone is so "uncool," why is it every Android-based phone is attempting to mimic the iPhone design?

    February 2, 2012 at 5:46 am |
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    Apple was never cool to begin with. Android & Windows devices are far superior.

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